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	<title>Comments on: Alan Jones And The NBN Fail!</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Wyres</title>
		<link>http://michaelwyres.com/2011/05/alan-jones-and-the-nbn-fail/#comment-430</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Wyres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 20:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t believe anyone is suggesting that NBN Co should be laying DCF or that we need to or should lay 26Tbps to each premise...the breakthrough in the highlighted research is the signal processing algorithm that allows them to reach that speed over the DCF.

The same algorithm applied to the fibre NBN Co are laying (not DCF) would push us well beyond the current commercial &quot;limit&quot; for GPON which is 40Gbps - and one day we may say even this new algorithm &quot;bettered&quot;.

The first we might see the need for a 26Tbps link is in major backhaul links - remember, networks scale outwards, not inwards.

A bozo like Alan Jones suggesting that we are stuck at 100Mbps, or even 40Gbps is a clear indication that he shouldn&#039;t be talking about it and/or claim to be knowledgeable about it.  That&#039;s the point of the article - demonstrating the folly of Alan Jones&#039; comments.

He is completely missing the point that the fibre class that IS being rolled out (not DCF) is not limited to the 100Mbps he claims, or the 1Gbps currently being catered for.  The current commercial limit for it is 40Gbps, and that has already been exceeded in laboratory conditions also.

It&#039;ll probably be more than 100 years or more before end user premises require 26Tbps, by which time the fibre NBN Co are laying might have been replaced a couple of times.  

The copper network was laid 60 years ago, and has served us well - but it&#039;s degrading and won&#039;t last forever.  It is cheaper to replace the network before it fails than fix it afterwards and wear the costs of downtime.

This is not about being an &quot;NBN fanboi&quot; - it&#039;s about sorting the fact from the FUD.  And Alan Jones with his standard political leanings is distributing nothing but the FUD.

Most stupidly of all, he seems to think the German research isn&#039;t even about fibre at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe anyone is suggesting that NBN Co should be laying DCF or that we need to or should lay 26Tbps to each premise&#8230;the breakthrough in the highlighted research is the signal processing algorithm that allows them to reach that speed over the DCF.</p>
<p>The same algorithm applied to the fibre NBN Co are laying (not DCF) would push us well beyond the current commercial &#8220;limit&#8221; for GPON which is 40Gbps &#8211; and one day we may say even this new algorithm &#8220;bettered&#8221;.</p>
<p>The first we might see the need for a 26Tbps link is in major backhaul links &#8211; remember, networks scale outwards, not inwards.</p>
<p>A bozo like Alan Jones suggesting that we are stuck at 100Mbps, or even 40Gbps is a clear indication that he shouldn&#8217;t be talking about it and/or claim to be knowledgeable about it.  That&#8217;s the point of the article &#8211; demonstrating the folly of Alan Jones&#8217; comments.</p>
<p>He is completely missing the point that the fibre class that IS being rolled out (not DCF) is not limited to the 100Mbps he claims, or the 1Gbps currently being catered for.  The current commercial limit for it is 40Gbps, and that has already been exceeded in laboratory conditions also.</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll probably be more than 100 years or more before end user premises require 26Tbps, by which time the fibre NBN Co are laying might have been replaced a couple of times.  </p>
<p>The copper network was laid 60 years ago, and has served us well &#8211; but it&#8217;s degrading and won&#8217;t last forever.  It is cheaper to replace the network before it fails than fix it afterwards and wear the costs of downtime.</p>
<p>This is not about being an &#8220;NBN fanboi&#8221; &#8211; it&#8217;s about sorting the fact from the FUD.  And Alan Jones with his standard political leanings is distributing nothing but the FUD.</p>
<p>Most stupidly of all, he seems to think the German research isn&#8217;t even about fibre at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Golfman</title>
		<link>http://michaelwyres.com/2011/05/alan-jones-and-the-nbn-fail/#comment-429</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Golfman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 10:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You realize of course that even though the assertion is that AJ did not understand the science this experiment was conducted using extremely advanced DCF (dispersion compensating fiber) not the same as the fiber being rolled out for the NBN. So while AJ may not have understood the science correctly, the assertion made by some NBN fan bois that you&#039;d get these speeds on the fiber being laid for the NBN is ridiculous.

&quot;Fiber aint fiber&quot; - remember that technology never stops advancing and there&#039;s not just one type of &#039;fiber optic cable&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You realize of course that even though the assertion is that AJ did not understand the science this experiment was conducted using extremely advanced DCF (dispersion compensating fiber) not the same as the fiber being rolled out for the NBN. So while AJ may not have understood the science correctly, the assertion made by some NBN fan bois that you&#8217;d get these speeds on the fiber being laid for the NBN is ridiculous.</p>
<p>&#8220;Fiber aint fiber&#8221; &#8211; remember that technology never stops advancing and there&#8217;s not just one type of &#8216;fiber optic cable&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Thread Bear</title>
		<link>http://michaelwyres.com/2011/05/alan-jones-and-the-nbn-fail/#comment-428</link>
		<dc:creator>Thread Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 09:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Michael Wyres, thanks for the interesting post discussing the complex technology of the internet, and Mr Jones ignorance of technology.
And could I add- 
Thank you for showing Mr Alan Jones ignorance about recent internet technology developments. It&#039;s now on record, as Mr Jones likes to pretend he knows everything.. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Michael Wyres, thanks for the interesting post discussing the complex technology of the internet, and Mr Jones ignorance of technology.<br />
And could I add-<br />
Thank you for showing Mr Alan Jones ignorance about recent internet technology developments. It&#8217;s now on record, as Mr Jones likes to pretend he knows everything.. </p>
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		<title>By: Michael Wyres</title>
		<link>http://michaelwyres.com/2011/05/alan-jones-and-the-nbn-fail/#comment-427</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Wyres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 05:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe it has already come to their attention, and not through my doing either... ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe it has already come to their attention, and not through my doing either&#8230; <img src='http://michaelwyres.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Maureen Chuck</title>
		<link>http://michaelwyres.com/2011/05/alan-jones-and-the-nbn-fail/#comment-426</link>
		<dc:creator>Maureen Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 05:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Michael, you should send this to Media Watch.  You know Jonathan Holmes loves to stick it it AJ.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Michael, you should send this to Media Watch.  You know Jonathan Holmes loves to stick it it AJ.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://michaelwyres.com/2011/05/alan-jones-and-the-nbn-fail/#comment-425</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 05:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem with AJ is that now that he has realized how stupid he was, he&#039;ll just ignore it and won&#039;t put anyone on his show who&#039;ll point this out.  In 2 weeks everyone will have forgotten.  He&#039;s counting on that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with AJ is that now that he has realized how stupid he was, he&#8217;ll just ignore it and won&#8217;t put anyone on his show who&#8217;ll point this out.  In 2 weeks everyone will have forgotten.  He&#8217;s counting on that.</p>
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		<title>By: mezzoculo</title>
		<link>http://michaelwyres.com/2011/05/alan-jones-and-the-nbn-fail/#comment-424</link>
		<dc:creator>mezzoculo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 04:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or string? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or string? </p>
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		<title>By: mezzoculo</title>
		<link>http://michaelwyres.com/2011/05/alan-jones-and-the-nbn-fail/#comment-423</link>
		<dc:creator>mezzoculo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 04:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Friggin&#039; laser beam.&quot;  It had to be said.

Great post! No doubt not the first or last time that a character such as Jones will use bluster and bulls*it to hide an appalling lack of facts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Friggin&#8217; laser beam.&#8221;  It had to be said.</p>
<p>Great post! No doubt not the first or last time that a character such as Jones will use bluster and bulls*it to hide an appalling lack of facts.</p>
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